Not Suicide, Not Murder - Death under Duress

Wednesday, 13 December 2017

Two Pathologists

A Dinner at an Oxford College


Late in the evening a dinner at an Oxford College was almost over. Food had been eaten, wine had been drunk and now the port was being passed around.

A guest at the dinner began to chat to his neighbour on the top table; the neighbour was a Member of the college. The Member, rather by chance, told me of this incident in 2012, seven years after it happened – in 2005.

The guest said that he was a forensic pathologist from out of town – by over a 100 miles. In the course of their conversation the name “Longworth” arose and to the surprise of the Member the pathologist knew of it.

He explained that he had been called there to attend to Dr David Kelly’s body on the hill. He arrived very quickly as he was in the area. He had examined the body briefly and then reported his initial opinion upwards – to either the Coroners Office or the Home Office.

His view was that he had no idea what the cause of death was. It wasn’t blood loss and the wrist wounds were not self inflicted!

I am not sure who received this news but after a brief interval the pathologist was relieved of his duties as far as Dr Kelly was concerned. He may well have been advised to keep these views to himself.

Forensic pathologists are not usually salaried but get paid a fee for the work they do. If work is not referred to them – then they have no income.

I will call the pathologist “Dr L T” or the “First Pathologist” – and he was removed from the Dr David Kelly case.

However, while attending David Kelly’s body I believe he met another doctor – Dr Kelly’s GP. Dr L T admonished Dr Warner and the police officer for moving David Kelly’s body – but understood the GP’s well-intentioned motives. He no doubt told Dr Warner of his thoughts on David Kelly’s death.

Dr Warner


It was perfectly reasonable for Dr Warner to take the sight of a dead patient with slashed wrists as a reasonably obvious suicide.

But with the expert comments from Dr L T he was now aware that things were not as they appeared to be.

When, a few days later, another pathologist – a Dr Hunt – declared a totally different opinion, Dr Warner realised that there were unseen forces at work.

Dr Warner didn’t like the apparently emerging cover-up and decided he was going to keep it at arm’s length.

Dr Hunt gave the time of death as 8:45 pm +/- 4:30. Dr Warner recalled that David Kelly’s body had no signs of rigor mortis when he moved it. Had there been well developed rigor mortis, then David Kelly’s body would have remained sitting up – a ghoulish sight. Nor was there rigor mortis in his right hand when he tried to feel for a pulse.

Dr Warner had dealt with many recently deceased patients and knew that the time of death given by Dr Hunt couldn’t be true. If there was no obvious rigor mortis at about 09:00 on that morning – then he guessed David Kelly could have died about 6 hours earlier – say 03:00. This is outside the range given by Dr Hunt.

When the Hutton Inquiry evolved Dr Warner decided that he wouldn’t get involved as he was far from clear what had been going on and didn’t want to be party to any deception.

However, there are many ways, fair and foul, in which he could be persuaded to attend. It was almost essential that the deceased’s GP attend. I think that he agreed to attend but with an agreed scripted series of questions and answers.

Thus we have Dr Warner’s bizarre appearance at the HI.

Dr L T


I am fairly certain that I know who the “First Pathologist” is. I have studied much of his prior work in many ways he “fits” the role. I have met him and discussed the matter but he will not admit to having been involved. In fact he went to considerable trouble to explain how it couldn’t have been him and must have been Dr Hunt; I thought - “he doth protest too much?” – and that rather confirmed my opinion.

in remaining silent upon the matter of David Kelly’s death, he is carrying a significant moral, ethical and professional burden. In short he is not admitting to having had any role in David Kelly’s death.

In these circumstances what we need is a Court of Law – such as a Coroner’s Court - with powers of formal summons followed by questioning under oath. This is precisely what the Hutton Inquiry was not.

Dr L T’s Visit


Dr L T was a member of Forensic Pathology Services (FPS). This was a partnership of a dozen Forensic Pathologists that provided an extensive Forensic Pathology services in the south-east of England.

The offices of FPS are on the Culham Science Park, Abingdon – about 12 miles from Harrowdown Hill.

I can only imagine that Dr L T was at his FPS office early on the morning of the 18th July 2003. It was here that he probably received the call to go to Harrowdown Hill to attend to the body found there.

There is a detail in his account given at the Oxford College dinner – and that is he knew where “Appleton” was. Appleton is a small village 4 miles east of Longworth.

It seems probable that Dr L T was advised to take a road route to Longworth that included Appleton.

Such a route is shown on the map above. It is a journey of 15 miles – about 25 minutes.

The “First Pathologist” – what next?


The First Pathologist’s reaction to C&C’s attempt to make David Kelly’s death look like suicide was a complete failure.

This was a catastrophic outcome. Matters were going from bad to unbelievably disastrous.

C&C had to fix this matter ASAP - and by any means whatsoever.

While this was happening Lord Charles Falconer was talking to Prime Minister Tony Blair (in flight to Tokyo). Falconer was also recruiting the retired Lord Brian Hutton to lead an Inquiry into the death of Dr David Kelly – whose body had yet to be identified.

The “Second Pathologist”


C&C had to find another Forensic Pathologist ASAP. As I’ve explained Forensic Pathologists are usually paid a fee per post mortem performed; they are not salaried.

Therefore, if a Forensic Pathologist doesn’t get referred post mortems, he has no income.

If a newly qualified Forensic Pathologist, with a family and a mortgage, is threatened with penury he may well comply with unreasonable requests.

C&C promptly ordered that Dr Nicholas Hunt be ordered to go to Longworth.

Dr Nicholas Hunt


Dr Nicholas Charles Alexander Hunt was a doctor whose name had just been added to the list of Home Office approved Forensic Pathologists in 2002. He was the youngest, least experienced and least qualified pathologist in the FPS partnership.

When a doctor is appointed to a Consultant or equivalent grade in the UK they must have passed the examinations of the appropriate Royal Colleges. For a pathologist this would be the examinations set by The Royal College of Pathologists.

In addition, they must also have a Certificate of Completion of Higher Training (CCHT). This confirms that the doctor has completed an approved Period of Higher Training in his speciality.

Dr Hunt doesn’t have a CCHT and is listed by the General Medical Council as having no Specialist Training; as far as they are concerned he is not a GP and not a Specialist.

About a year after Dr Hunt’s appearance on the Home Office List the need for a CCHT was mandated.

Friday 18th July


On the day Dr Kelly’s body was found Dr Hunt was “off-duty” having committed to work on case reviews at the National Crime Faculty in Bramshill, Hampshire. This was a fairly regular process of getting together various team members to discuss aspects of either current or “cold” cases. It was likely that this was a whole day’s commitment.

But – at about 10:30 Dr Hunt’s telephone rang – if only he’d switched it off! He had a call from the Home Office that left him in no doubt that, whatever he was doing, he had to drop it and get to Longworth as fast as he could.

He was probably told sometime that these instructions came from the Home Office – possibly Lord Falconer - and as a matter of national security he had to follow instructions to the letter. He was reminded that he had signed the very onerous Official Secrets Act 1989.

He was also told to discuss his findings with C&C and take C&C’s advice on how these should be represented.

Dr Hunt duly left the meeting at Bramshill in Hampshire. He made his way to an unfamiliar part of Oxfordshire – Longworth – a distance of about 50 miles. He arrived at the police cordon at 12:00. That is why it took over three hours for a forensic pathologist to arrive following the find of the body at 08:45.

Most of the events at Harrowdown Hill were routine except for the measurement of temperatures.

Temperatures


Temperature measurements are essential in estimating the time of death (TOD) and must be done ASAP.

The air temperature was measured as 20.8˚C.

The core body temperature was measured as rectal temperature and given as 24˚C.

Why was the air temperature to 0.1˚C but the rectal temperature, apparently, to 1˚C? What sort of thermometer did Dr Hunt have – a jam making thermometer?

Sadly the temperature was taken at the very end of the field examination at 19:15. This seriously degraded the value of the method of estimating the TOD.

A valuable core temperature could have been taken when Dr Hunt arrived - a little after 12:00. He could have used a needle type thermistor probe (see picture). This could have been inserted directly through the skin into the liver and got an early, accurate core temperature reading.
          
Finally, he failed to measure the ground surface temperature beneath David Kelly’s body. This was needed to produce a true corrected ambient temperature; these are the written instructions on Dr Henssge’s nomogram – see below.

Dr Hunt would have used a graphical device (a Henssge nomogram) to estimate the TOD. This needs four measurements –

  • core body temperature (of questionable accuracy)
  • body weight (seriously in error) and
  • ambient temperature (ground temperature not measured) – only air temperature)

Dr Hunt’s estimate of the time of death seems to have been conjured out of thin air – neither I nor others can replicate it.

The Post Mortem


Dr Hunt had arranged, or been told, to perform the post mortem examination of David Kelly’s body on the evening of the 18th July. This was at the mortuary of the John Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford.

The post mortem began at 9:20pm and finished at 0:15am. This was an exceptional decision – as routine post mortems are done a few hours later – from about 06:00.

The other exceptional feature of the post mortem was the number of observers.

It’s not unusual to have a doctor, who has looked after the deceased, attend a post mortem.

Similarly, a police officer with a special interest in a death of someone might attend a post mortem – both to tell the pathologist what he knew of the deceased – and to see first hand the pathologist’s findings.

Dr Hunt’s post mortem was observed/attended by no less nine police officers. They ranged from DCI Alan Young, in charge of Operation Mason to Sally Hunt from the Coroner’s Office; and this, late in the evening of a Friday night.


Dr Hunt’s post mortem was more than usually invasive and I wouldn’t have been surprised if a number of the gathered witnesses didn’t faint.

But why nine police officers as observers?

My guess is that C&C wanted to let Dr Hunt know that his every move, his every comment (recorded) and finding was going to be observed by a phalanx of police officers. Thus there were nine TVP officers acting as witnesses to the post mortem. There is little doubt that Dr Hunt would have felt both intimidated and distracted by this extraordinary gathering.

In all the circumstances this post mortem must have been an immensely stressful procedure for this young pathologist.

The Post Mortem Report


The findings of the post mortem were fairly routine. It contains many minor errors – probably attributable to stress imposed on Dr Hunt.

There are just five matters I want to mention.

  1. David Kelly’s weight is given as 59kg. We know from his last MOD medical that he weighed 74kg clothed – corresponding to a naked weight of 71kg. This weighing error casts doubt on the weights of body organs. Dr Hunt makes one massive error in recording the weight of the liver as 136g rather than about 1500g. I would put this down to the duress he was working under.
  2. Minor superficial injuries - he seems to have given a very detailed description of body marks – and these are referred to in Chapter 8 “What to do with his body?”
  3. Wrist artefacts - he has given a detailed description of the wrist artefacts – and these are dealt with in Chapter 4 “The Cut Wrist”.
  4. Heart – this was the only organ to show any natural pathology. In most respects the heart appeared normal. But – cutting through the coronary artery’s revealed severe and extensive arterial disease.

    The coronary arteries arise from the base of the aorta and spread out, like the roots of a tree, to carry blood to the muscle of the heart. There are two main coronary arteries – Right and Left – supplying the two ventricles of the heart.

    Right Coronary Artery


    almost 100% blockage

    Left Coronary Artery

    the left anterior descending artery – 70% blockage with an old complete blockage, now cleared, further on

    the circumflex artery – 65% blockage

    This description of David Kelly’s coronary arteries indicates very severe disease.

    It would be typical of a person who smoked or who had a very adverse lifestyle or diet.

    This degree of disease may have caused heart muscle pain on exertion – a pain called angina. Dr Kelly had visited his GP in 1983 saying he thought he might have angina but nothing seemed to have come of the visit.

    What is clear, however, is that David Kelly didn’t die from a blood clot, or thrombus, in his one of his coronary arteries – a common cause of a “heart attack”.

    He died from a different type of heart attack.
  5. Chest wall – he records “a small group of post mortem “abrasions” over the upper chest suggestive of insect activity”.

    Insect lesions are potentially very important in forensic studies. However, the time scale of these changes is usually measured in days and weeks – not in hours.

    In the short time that David Kelly’s body had been in the copse it’s unlikely significant insect activity would have occurred. No more than might a camper encounter overnight.

    If there were such activity it would be probably found on the exposed parts of limbs or on the head and neck.

    I have been told that when David Kelly’s body was taken to The Royal Berkshire Hospital in Reading the staff found two adhesive electrodes on his chest. These were not ECG electrodes but defibrillator electrodes. The hospital staff may have been unfamiliar with these devices as metal paddle electrodes were still in routine use in hospitals.

    These defibrillator electrodes are very adhesive – for obvious reasons.

    I believe that when these electrodes were pulled off they left behind two patches of hairless chest and minor fine, red rashes or “abrasions” as Dr Hunt chooses to call them.
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Tuesday, 12 December 2017

David Kelly’s GP – Dr Warner

David Kelly’s GP


The behaviour of David Kelly’s general practitioner (GP) following his death should not have attracted any great attention.

But it did.

I have no doubt that Dr Warner is a totally honest and reliable doctor.

But - I believe that he found himself caught in a complex scenario. He thought his best option was to go into denial.

By so doing he has left a trail of enigmas.

Dr Malcolm Warner’s full name is Malcolm David Warner. He was born in Dorset in 1947; in 1971 he married Christine Hills in Hampstead.

Malcolm Warner qualified MB BS from the Royal London Hospital in 1973; he should have qualified in 1972 – but slipped back a year. After his one year of “house jobs”, he spent some time in children’s medicine.

He moved to Faringdon in 1975 and joined the White Horse Medical Practice. This is in the old Oxfordshire market town of Faringdon – beneath the Uffington White Horse. He remained here until his retirement in 2007. Then he moved to Newton Abbot in Devon.

His practice was computerised in 2002 and had a website by 2005 –


Friday 18 July 2003


A regular Thursday was about to become irregular. Dr Warner was at the surgery when it opened at 08:30. Within a few minutes a Thames Valley Police (TVP) car arrived. Two TVP officers had come to talk to David Kelly’s GP – Dr Malcolm Warner. Details of this are here – item 45 on page 21 -


They explained that David Kelly was missing.

They wanted to know if he needed any drugs etc. Was he diabetic, epileptic or had any other critical illnesses?

The answer was no.

As they were about to leave, news came across the radio that a body had been found. This was at about 09:00. They told Dr Warner of this find – in confidence.

As they went to leave, staff of Operation Mason called them. This was the TVP operation set up to look for David Kelly. Would Dr Warner be prepared to identify the body found on Harrowdown Hill?

A family member would often be asked to identify a body. This didn’t seem an appropriate option on this occasion. Otherwise, a person of some standing in the community who knew the deceased – a vicar, doctor or similar. David Kelly didn’t attend the Church so his GP was an obvious choice.

Whilst DC Coe had little doubt that the body was that of David Kelly, an independent identification was necessary. The more so because of David Kelly’s VIP status.

David Kelly's body as found by the Searchers at 08:45

Dr Warner had a fair workload that morning. He asked the surgery staff to do their best to rearrange his work while he went with the police. By 09:15 Dr Warner had arrived at Harrowdown Hill.

Dr Warner was driven to Harrowdown Hill copse. One of DC Coe’s trio led him to the body. Dr Warner agreed that this was Dr David Kelly. However, he couldn’t examine him properly as he was slumped up against the tree.

My medical colleagues assure me that doctors are trained, from day one, to examine patients in a specific way. Dr Warner had been doing this for 30 years. They need the patient to be almost flat save for a pillow or similar. They will examine the patient from the patient’s right-hand side. Even left-handed doctors are trained so.

David Kelly's body as found by the Paramedics at 10:00

Thus, Dr Warner asked one of the Coe trio help him move the body onto flat ground; this was done and the body ended up clear of the tree by about 18″.

Then he could check the pupils, feel for a carotid artery pulse, look for any signs of breathing and listen to his chest, with a stethoscope, for any sounds of breathing or heartbeats. As a matter of routine, he picked up the right arm to feel for a radial pulse. There was none and with great care and sadness he put the right arm down across the chest.

He noticed that the body was cool but there was no rigor mortis.

There were obvious incisions at the left wrist surrounded by some blood.

He told the Coe trio that the body was that of his patient Dr David Kelly – and he that he was dead. DC Coe and his fellow officers thanked Dr Warner for his time.

He was driven back to his surgery as quickly as he came.

Another Doctor


As Dr Warner was about to leave David Kelly’s body, another doctor arrived on the scene. I will explain this in Chapter 12. Suffice it to say that the second Dr – lets call him Dr LT – briefly discussed the condition of David Kelly’s body with Dr Warner before they departed.

The account above - Dr Warner


Much of my account above of Dr Warner’s conduct is speculative.

But – there are reasons for these conclusions:

  • We know that TVP officers called on Dr Warner to find out about his medical needs.
  • This could only have happened when it was assumed David Kelly was alive. The information was irrelevant if he had died.
  • Dr Warner’s surgery opened at 08;30. The body was found at 08:45.
  • The TVP officers were at or near Dr Warner when they heard that a body had been found.
  • Dr Warner was the obvious choice to provide an independent identification – as well as certifying death.
  • It is clear that someone moved David Kelly’s body. It was reported by both the searchers to be slumped against the tree. When the paramedics arrived it was flat and well clear of the tree.
  • Both Dr Hunt, the pathologist, and PC Sawyer described how David Kelly’s jean bottoms were pulled upwards.
  • Moving David Kelly’s body from a position slumped up against a tree to a clear flat position is entirely reasonable if a doctor wanted to examine the person properly.

Mr Robert Jackson MP


In 2003 Robert Jackson was the Conservative MP for Wantage, Oxfordshire, and had been for 20 years.

He lived in Southmoor – less than a mile from the Kelly family. Mr Jackson knew Mrs Kelly and had met David Kelly briefly.

After David Kelly’s death, he received various messages – mostly covert – about his late constituent – David Kelly. These were to the effect that things were not as they seemed – and his death should be looked into.

But, he didn’t know what to make of these messages. They could have been political propaganda directed against the then Prime Minister – Tony Blair. He didn’t follow up any of these messages – but remained concerned about the matter.

A month or so after David Kelly’s death he went to see his GP – Dr Malcolm Warner – about a routine medical matter. In light of his concerns and in the midst of the consultation he asked Dr Warner if he had an opinion about David Kelly’s death.

Dr Warner responded by saying that indeed he did - he had been to see his body on Harrowdown Hill. There was no doubt that he had slashed wrists and it looked like an obvious suicide.

Mr Jackson didn’t doubt this account and took it as clear primary evidence of the facts. An account of this meeting was later reported in the press in March 2011.

Dr Warner no doubt gave this account to Mr Jackson as consistent with the “official version”.

I believe that Dr Warner knew of a different version of events - from his encounter with Dr LT.

But he wasn’t prepared to share this alternative version with Mr Jackson.

Thus Robert Jackson left Dr Warner’s surgery reassured about the cause of David Kelly’s death.

Finally – it is possible that Dr Warner had breached some esoteric aspect of patient confidentiality. He may have been back-pedalling from this.

Communications


I wrote to and spoke to Robert Jackson concerning this issue. His account is just as I described it above and he is no doubt that Dr Warner went to see David Kelly’s body on Harrowdown Hill.

I have also written to and spoken to Dr Malcolm Warner. Dr Warner completely contradicts Robert Jackson’s account. He denies having been to Harrowdown Hill.

His final comment is – as it has always been to me and others –

“this accords with my evidence to the Hutton inquiry.”

He was very reluctant, as opposed to being very open, to discuss this matter at all. He always resorted to referring to his evidence at the HI as the end of the matter.

But it’s almost the beginning of a matter – because Dr Warner’s “evidence” to the HI stands out like a flashing red light.

Dr Warner – Anomalies


  1. There is a clear report - given by Robert Jackson MP – that Dr Warner saw David Kelly’s body on Harrowdown Hill.
  2. Dr Warner has often referred to his account* of events at the Hutton Inquiry (HI) as his final words on the matter.

Dr Warner’s Account* at HI


* Statements made at the HI were not under oath and I prefer the term account as opposed to evidence or testimony. These words convey a sense of legality that is misleading.

  • His Name - The first anomaly is his answer to the first Question

    Q: MR KNOX: Dr Warner, can you tell the Inquiry your full name?
    Like every other attendee at the HI he should have given his full name as –

    “Malcolm David Warner”

    But no, as though reading from a script, he says –

    A: Dr WARNER: I am Dr Malcolm Warner.

    He failed to give his full name and gave his shortened name plus his title. I wonder if he was reading from a prepared script?
  • His Answers - Dr Warner was David Kelly’s GP for many years - also GP to the other four members of the Kelly family. He was in a perfect position to answer a myriad questions about David Kelly and his family.

    Instead Dr Hawton – the psychiatrist, answered these questions - after a fashion. Dr Hawton seems to have been imported and spent time with the Kelly family getting to know them and the late David Kelly.

    Dr Hawton then answered many questions about the Kelly family and David Kelly – although he had never met him. He seemed to be acting as a posthumous locum GP.

    Dr Warner could have answered most of these questions – but he did not.

    A most remarkable feature of Dr Warner’s answers is their amazing brevity. The total number of words spoken by Dr Warner amounted to just 74!

    Dr Hawton’s answers ran to 6,639 words – 90 times as much as Dr Warner had to say.

    My immediate reaction to this is that Dr Warner didn’t want to be at the HI. He went under some duress, answered a minimal number of agreed questions and left. A token appearance.

    The absurd brevity of his answers doesn’t give his appearance any credibility. For all practical purposes he may as well have stayed in Faringdon.
  • Analysis of his Answers - I am greatly indebted to a scientific colleague and friend. He wrote a computer programme that analysed in detail the whole of the text of the HI Transcripts that can be found here –

This amounted to just over 860,000 words in total. Of these Dr Warner contributed 74.

The vertical bar on the extreme left has a value of four and represents the average length of Dr Warner’s answers compared to everyone else’s.

One witness managed to average 79 words per answer (Terence Taylor – a defence expert).

If we look at everyone’s answers we find that the average length of an answer was 33 words.

Dr Warner’s answers averaged just four words per answer – hardly an intelligent sentence.

Graph of average number of words per individual
answer for each attendee

Statistically Dr Warner’s answers were very, very out of the ordinary.

If we look at the total words in each person’s answers we get the following graph.

Graph of total words in all answers per attendee

The average number of words per witness for all the their answers was 4,970.

Dr Warner’s answer ran to a total of 74 – it is on the absolute extreme left of the graph. It is so little it that it can’t be shown on this graph.

The bar on the extreme left shows the total number of words spoken by Dr Warner. The least of all the 78 witnesses. The bar to the right of Dr Warner’s are some brief technical questions to the HI’s Secretary.

Dr Warner’s answers were very abnormal and very atypical.

Intuitively, I don’t think he wanted to be at the HI. The extraordinary paucity of his account – 74 words – seems entirely consistent with this.

I think that he may be an example of a witness who didn’t want to attend. But did attend as a result of some duress – many forms of which could be applied to a family GP.

Why wouldn’t he want to attend the HI? I can explain this in Chapter 12.

Graph of total words in ten shortest answers


3. Examination of Evidence submitted to the Inquiry by TVP – Statements

This is a list of statements made to TVP. The list was released in 2011. We know that it has a significant number of missing statements eg Tucks Lane resident, amongst many others. It is here –


The list contains 265 documents of which 200 are covert; the remaining 65 are available to the public – just 25% of the total.

Twenty-five confidential statements involve medical correspondence about David Kelly and Dr Warner – mostly in respect of medical letters – dating from 1979 to 1996.

The statements are recorded by Volume and Page Numbers. Thus TVP/4/0016-18 – would be a document in Volume 4 and on Pages 16 to 18 inclusive.

In TVP’s Volume 1, Dr Warner was the seventh person (out of more than 200) to have given a statement to TVP – on page 39.

The eighth person was David Bartlett, one of the paramedics, and the ninth person was Vanessa Hunt, the other paramedic.

Both paramedics were sent to Harrowdown Hill.

It is strange that Dr Warner, who denies having been to Harrowdown Hill, has given a statement to TVP that is filed immediately before those of the two paramedics who did go to Harrowdown Hill.

TVP Volume 1:


Witness statement: David Malcolm Warner - not for release - personal witness statement TVP/1/0039
Witness statement: David Ian Bartlett - not for release - personal witness statement TVP/1/0040 - 0041
Witness statement: Vanessa Elizabeth Hunt - not for release - personal witness statement TVP/1/0042 – 0045

On the 28th July – ten days after David Kelly’s death - Ruth Rees, a Coroner’s Officer in Oxford, wrote to Dr Warner. He replied on the 4th August. This may well have been routine correspondence – but it is not made public because it is classed as “Police operational information”; perhaps it wasn’t routine correspondence after all.


TVP Volume 10:


Letter: Dr Malcolm Warner / Coroner's Officer 04.08.03 - not for release - Police operational information TVP/10/0123
Letter: Ruth Rees (coroner's officer) / Dr M Warner 28.07.03 - not for release - Police operational information TVP/10/0124

Conclusion



  1. We have a clear statement from Robert Jackson MP that Dr Warner told him that he had been to see David Kelly’s body.
  2. We have a great deal of circumstantial evidence to support Robert Jackson’s statement.
  3. Dr Warner now denies having any involvement with David Kelly’s body on Harrowdown Hill.
  4. Dr Warner, when pressed for information, simply says, “this accords with my evidence to the Hutton inquiry”.
  5. Yet his account at the HI is manifestly very atypical, very abnormal.
  6. I think I may be able to explain this anomaly in Chapter 12.





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Monday, 11 December 2017

The Paramedic Team

The Paramedics


Vanessa Hunt and David Bartlett received a call, at about 09:40, to go to Longworth – to the end of Tucks Lane. They were a very experienced crew and had seen most sorts of human mishaps that you could imagine. I interviewed them several times; they told me a great deal of detail about their visit – which was very important detail.


Vanessa Hunt and David Bartlett
This information would have been uncovered by detailed, rigorous questioning by a lawyer. But – at the Hutton Inquiry that sort of activity didn’t seem to happen; indeed the very opposite seem commonplace. When an interesting, and perhaps unforeseen, matter arose the legal questioning simply went off in another direction.

Vanessa Hunt said that it was clear to her that, at the Hutton Inquiry, Lord Hutton “wanted me out of there as fast as possible”.

En route to Longworth they were given the code call “Kilo one” – this means “someone thought to be dead – but not yet proven”.

Given the rural location they expected to find a hanging or a shooting.

They arrived at the end of Tuck’s Lane at 09:55. There were police vans and a lot of policemen on site - completely beyond normal experience or expectations.

There were uniformed officers, CID officers and much to their surprise there were officers clad in black only – that they recognised as members of the Armed Response Unit. In all some 30–40 officers.

They had assumed they were attending a routine call-out. However, it was very clear that they had arrived at a totally exceptional event - they wondered what on earth they were going to find.

A police sergeant who met them wouldn’t let them take the ambulance any further.
They recalled his name very clearly; he answered his radio with the name Dad; later they found out that this was Dadd – Sergeant Alan Dadd.

They collected all they could carry and walked almost half a mile to the copse on Harrowdown Hill. The sergeant turned sharp left and walked up into the copse – between branches and bushes. Here they saw David Kelly’s body flat on its back with his head some 18″ from a tree trunk.

Vanessa Hunt told me that the body had been left unattended. She had never been lead to a body that had no police officer looking after it. In her experience this was unique – yet there were well over 30 police officers on the site.

David Bartlett’s reaction to the scene was that it looked as though David Kelly’s body had fallen out of the tree; as though an attempted suicide by hanging had gone wrong.

A very odd scene


I describe events as told to me by Vanessa Hunt & David Bartlett.

They knew immediately that things were not right.

David Kelly’s body, above as found by the searchers,
below as found by the paramedics



  • First - there was no police officer with the body – it was quite unattended when they arrived.
  • Second – no taped, protected pathway had been set up – they just had to follow Sergeant Dadd as he found his way to the body.
  • Third – why was an apparent suicide was not sat against the tree trunk? It seemed the obvious position to find the body. They asked “has he fallen out of the tree” in an attempted hanging?
  • Fourth – there was a water bottle, standing upright, a watch and knife neatly put in line up on the left side of the body. Assuming that the deceased was right handed (which he was), they would have expected these to be put to his right hand side.
  • Fifth – as they arrived two police officers walked up behind then. These were presumably PCs Franklin and Sawyer.

    At the HI, these officers describe a different account – namely that they arrived first and the paramedics arrived two minutes later. Vanessa Hunt is clear that they were there first.

    Vanessa Hunt then prepared to perform an ECG recording but PC Sawyer wanted to take photographs first.
  • Sixth – an ordinary PC took the photographs with what seemed to be a personal camera. She would have expected a Scenes of Crime Officer (SOCO) to do these.

    When allowed, Vanessa Hunt unbuttoned David Kelly’s shirt and applied four ECG electrodes to his chest. The recording was of a dead heart – a flat line.

    However, Vanessa Hunt had trouble applying one of the ECG electrodes on the right-hand side of the chest.
  • David Kelly’s right arm was lying on his chest and had well-developed rigor mortis. This is perfectly normal for a body that has been dead for some time. She had to work her way around the rigid right arm to get the electrodes in the correct position.
  • One of the first things that David Bartlett commented on to me when I met him were the two striking and unusual brown marks on David Kelly’s face.

    He said that it simply couldn’t be vomit because it was so symmetrical; vomit would have run over from one side of the mouth or other – but not both.

    He mentioned this at the Hutton Inquiry. The Questions & Answers went thus –

    Q. What about the face? Did you notice anything about the face?
    A. Yes, going from the corners of the mouth were two stains, one slightly longer than the other.

    Q. Where did the stains go to from the mouth?
    A. Towards the bottom of the ears.

    Q. Did you check for a pulse?


    The last question was the typical of the Hutton Inquiry – a quick side step when an unplanned issue arose.
  • Vanessa Hunt had to get down on her knees to put the ECG electrodes onto David Kelly’s chest.

    She too saw the brown marks on the face of David Kelly. They ran from the corners of his mouth to below his ears. They were so obvious and unusual that Vanessa Hunt wondered if David Kelly had had a gag wrapped around his neck and across his mouth.

Brown Marks on Face


It is very clear that both Vanessa Hunt and David Bartlett considered the two brown marks on David Kelly’s bearded face very distinctive and unusual.

I can explain these significant observations later – and they are very important.

PC Martyn Sawyer


In response to a question, at the Hutton Inquiry, about David Kelly’s clothing PC Sawyer said –

“His jeans -- he was wearing jeans, they were pulled up slightly, exposing the lower half of his leg or his ankle. It looked as if he had slid down and his trousers had ridden up.”

Dr Hunt – pathologist


It is worth adding here Dr Hunt’s observations of David Kelly’s trousers –

“The left leg of the jeans was pulled up to approximately mid-calf level. The right leg was pulled up to just above the ankle”

These observation fit exactly the effect of moving David Kelly’s away from the tree.

Sergeant Allan DADD


The TVP search team assembled at Abingdon Police Station was lead by PC Martyn Sawyer accompanied by PC Franklin.

They had arrived at the Harrowdown Hill area a little before the paramedics arrived.

The paramedics were met and escorted to and from David Kelly’s body by a Sergeant - Sergeant Allan Dadd.

It is strange that at the Hutton Inquiry it is said that PC Sawyer led the search team. But the paramedics sensed that Sergeant Dadd was in control of the site.

Sergeant Dadd, PC Sawyer and PC Franklin were all embers of the Thames Valley Police Support Team based at Windsor Great Park.

Sergeant Dadd lived in Winnersh – a suburb of Reading – about 5 miles east of Reading town centre.

What was a TVP Sergeant from Reading doing on Harrowdown Hill that morning?

We don’t know - all we know is that he didn’t contribute to the Hutton Inquiry yet was present at Harrowdown Hill in a position of some seniority.

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